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Erste Seite<Seite4von25>Letzte Seite Koopi 13.08.2012 15:59:07 UTC Hallo Chally, kann man über Dein Velomobil im Netz mehr erfahren? Koopi chally 13.08.2012 15:07:54 UTC Alle Daten sind auf Motorrad "korrigiert", aus allen Rekordlisten bin ich somit raus. LeMarquis: Anhand einiger nicht öffentlicher Kommentare eine Lösung die mir recht ist, da ich mit knapp 25.000 Jahreskilometern schnell viele Listen anführen würde. Kalorien könnte man sicherlich steuern, aber die gefahrenen Kilometer und die Geschwindigkeitslisten würde ich -falls gewollt- schnell anführen. Leistungen mit dem Velomobil kann ich hin und wieder für kurze Zeit einstellen, sofern die Plausibilitätsprüfung mitspielt. Gruß Chally LeMarquis 13.08.2012 09:24:34 UTC Hi Chally, Why don't you ask the Run.GPS team to create a new sport? (they will probably respond faster when emailing them in stead of using this forum). I don't think it would be that much work for them to duplicate a sport, changing the average calorie consumption, changing probably a few queries and creating an icon for the Velomobil. Alternatively you could use a HRM but (in my opinion, see my previous post) that isn't flawless either. You could also create your own sport in the Run.GPS software (the question mark). That way the calories are not taken into acoount for the Hall of Fame. Disadvantage is that the calorie consumption will probably be incorrect. Personally (and I hope most people agree), I don't think it would be fair to you if you had to change your sport to a "motorized sport" because, like you say, your Velomobil is "human-powered". Looking at your statistics I'd say you definitely belong in the HoF! Kind regards, LeMarquis chally 13.08.2012 06:37:40 UTC Milan SL Hallo, ich werde zukünftig in der Rubrik Motorrad fahren, dann findet keine Wertung meiner Fahrten statt und ich falle langsam aus den Tabellen heraus. War dennoch nett zu zeigen, was heute mit "human-powered" abgehen kann. Die Software stellte mein Gewicht immer wieder auf 80 kg ein, obgleich ich immer niedrigere Gewichte eingegeben habe. Ich hatte allerdings auch keine Lust vor jeder Fahrt genau die Gewichtseinstellungen zu prüfen. Das Gewicht lag allerdings immer noch unter dem wirklichen Gesamtgewicht des Systems mit Fahrer und Velomobil, wenn auch nur knapp. Gruß Chally LeMarquis 12.08.2012 18:29:27 UTC Hi SpeedSu, I think we need 2 things for this discussion to be over: 1) All user should be honest (select the right sport, right weight, stop their recording immediately when finished training and using a HRM, etc, etc). 2) The software should stop counting calories when standing still and using a HRM. I don't know which variables are used to calculate the calorie consumption when using a HRM, but when I compare one of my own trainings (41 km racebiking, 33 km/h average, 163 bpm average, 1295 kCal) to someone elses training (also 41 km, but 24 km/h, 134 bmp, 1415 kCal) then I guess the average power has not been taken into consideration, but just the amount of heart beats... Kind regards, LeMarquis user_-897618145 12.08.2012 18:13:00 UTC Hallo, den Polar gibt es schon für 40€, aber er ist nicht empfehlenswert. Ich habe nur Ärger mit dem Ding und schon das vierte mal umgetauscht. MfG starbase64 speedsu 12.08.2012 17:49:24 UTC korrekte kcal = Benutzung HF Monitor es gibt nur eine Lösung für das kalorienproblem. Da muss einfach ein Herzfrequenz Monitor angezogen werden. Alle anderen berechnungen für die Kalorien sind ungenau und können mit Formeln nie Stimmig für alle definiert werden. mit 90 Euro ist man dabei mit einem HF MONITOR und alle Diskusionen erübrigen sich. henzel 11.08.2012 00:50:12 UTC geändert am 11.08.2012 11:36:24 UTC Milan SL Yes, extremely lower your weight is the only way, if it works at all. No other tricks are there.. Maybe admins could give their thoughts about the calorie calculation. Unfortunetly, but also more logic, they have more important stuff to think about (for real). Obvious, the calculation is not even close now. We are even getting rewarded to exercise as SLOWLY as possible. Although, in my case, if I change a running excercize of 11km/h to cycling, I still get the 31 kcal/km that I also get when I am riding 30km/h. It could not be more stable, tops 5% off. Remarkable is the fact how some people get 45 kcal/km (same sport) or even more and all of them are averaging 20km/h or (a lot) less. I am talking averages over years, not just some exercises. I will not give examples, do not want to offend any one. The calculation for calories used by Run.GPS is probably designed for runners and runners ONLY. Wind is a very small factor for runners, an insignificant factor for calorie consumption. Off course because of the low speeds. Too bad, that same algorithm/calculation is used with all other sports, despite that most of them are very and very depending on wind resistence. Since wind resistence rises exponentially with increasing lineair speeds, so does the calories. And yes, if you go faster, your exercise will be shorter, but you still have burned more calories. Look at following link and calculate for yourself: http://www.gribble.org/cycling/power_v_speed.html Considering that the power needed to do something is more or less lineair with the burned calories (not completely true, human body efficiency varies as much as 5 % (21-26% for example) depending on the intensity, but in no way as significant as the exponentially resistence factor of wind), this comes in very handy to get a closer look. Simple example: 2 cyclists, same course, SAME distance. One does 15km/h average, number two does 30km/h average. Numbers one's exercise takes twice as long, but he only needs 34Watt power average. So to get even, number 2 should average 68Watt.... but to average 30km/h, he must average 150 Watt power!!!! More then double ! So the fast cyclist consumes 2 times more calories per second/minute/hour/day then the slower one... and even a whopping 4,5 times more colories PER KM if speed is doubled. That is very significant, though not at all present in the currect calculation, as if we all exercise in space where there is no wind..... Same goes for altitude. Any meter climbed extra means more calories needed. Your way down will never compensate enough for the extra power needed to get uphill. Simple facts, but in current calculation not even noticeable a little bit. Hopefully team Run.GPS will change the calculation somewhere in the future, not that hard...... off course you will not stop cheating with it, but at least the calorie counter will be very SIGNIFICANT closer to the truth if wind (and maybe also elevation) is taken into account. No exeptions, we are ALL exercising in the same atmosphere on planet Earth, we are Not in space where there is no wind resistence!!! And team Run.GPS, maybe make a new sport, velomobiles.... ;) Chally will eat us all alive in the charts with his amazing 440km commuting per week in just ten hours !! :) HarryKuehn 10.08.2012 10:37:19 UTC geändert am 10.08.2012 10:39:10 UTC Zu Milan SL Hallo Chally Ich denke du könntest höchstens an der Schraube Gewicht drehen. Also wenn Du deine Körpergewicht extrem niedrig einstellst. harry Koopi 01.08.2012 08:12:01 UTC Mein letzter Eintrag Plausibiltät wird nicht im Handy geprüft. Trotzdem danke für die Info. Mit radelnden Grüßen Koopi Erste Seite<Seite4von25>Letzte Seite